What we can expect from the jobs bill

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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by LadySaturn » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:02 pm

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MJPease wrote:OK! For now all we can do is take a let's see if the bill passes or fails approach to the situation.
The old wait and see.eh?

Yeah ... maybe this time they'll really have their act together and do something that could actually be beneficial to us citizens they're upposed to be serving.

Geez ... I can't even say that with a straight face.

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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by MJPease » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:06 am

While visiting the VA today I heard that the jobs bill will most likely fail to pass. Hmmm! What's up with that? What do you think about that? Take Care
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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by bags123 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:13 am

MJPease wrote:While visiting the VA today I heard that the jobs bill will most likely fail to pass. Hmmm! What's up with that? What do you think about that? Take Care
I hate to say it,...but I'm beginning to think the whole Obama Presidency was planned by the NeoCons from the beginning. Give 'em 4 years of no jobs, no money, and no hope,....and it'll be easier to get the de-regulations they want to further plunder us and the planet with the next fascist that's elected. :cheers:
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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by preston » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:37 pm

History may not rhyme
But it does repeat itself

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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by LadySaturn » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:02 pm

Surprise, surprise. I could have told you the bill was going to fail. When you've got grown ass men on both sides, bickering like little children and putting their needs before the people and this country, nothing and I mean nothing can ever truly be resolved. God help us all for what the future holds because we're gonna need it.

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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

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...likely the same thing we could expect up here...a queue number in the unemployment office!
Politics is intensely ironic. The biggest screw-ups make the most money and consider it a public service making everyone else poor,i.e., mostly the peons who pay taxes. The definition of "Civil Servant" I think should be reedited.

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Post by LadySaturn » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:46 pm

My heart goes out to our northern neighbors going through tough times... :hugs:

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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by bags123 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:40 am

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...likely the same thing we could expect up here...a queue number in the unemployment office!
Politics is intensely ironic. The biggest screw-ups make the most money and consider it a public service making everyone else poor,i.e., mostly the peons who pay taxes. The definition of "Civil Servant" I think should be reedited.

I wouldn't mind retiring to BC. I was considering Ireland for awhile. Something on the west coast. Now,...after the wall street ship sunk in 2009,...I'm looking for something closer to home. I hate Florida,...which seems to be the winter destination for alot of NY retirees. Austin was nice until it became a desert this past summer. How hard is it for an expatriot American to gain citizenship in Canada? Like Mike said in an earlier post somewhere,....back in the 50's and 60's you could walk across the bridge both ways from Buffalo to CA. I think Canada has alot going for it in the 21st century. Civility, being one. Just seems to me
that the past 30 years or so,...haven't been good to the American psyche. We're cruder, dumber, fatter, and less courteous, as a society altogether. Canadians? Not so much. :thumbsup:
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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by Bruno » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:41 pm

BC has many incredible beautiful places to retire in but the Lower mainland is definitely NOT one of them. Not long ago I called it a lunatic asylum and that defintion remains as accurate as ever imo. You would know why if you lived here even though you may not go quite that far. Suffice it to say it used to be far more pleasant on many different levels. Many of the smaller towns are an entirely different story - as they usually are - but not all of them are coequal either. People only see how "picturesque" it seems but that's only half of it and not even that. Things have changed mightily up here as much as everywhere else...not for the better!

As for an ex-patriot seeking citizenship in Canada you may have a longer wait with more "conditions" as a "retiree" since you would be considered no longer productive and possibly sponge off our over burdened health care system which now ranks 30th within a sampling of 30 countries. It's a common joke but if you require "priority" medical service you either have to be a hockey player or a citizen in Clinksville if you don't want to die waiting. But if you have the money you can have a good life anywhere you want.

As for Civility or being a good Samaritan that too can be deadly as a young fellow was stabbed and died from his wounds around a week ago practicing these virtues. Sometimes intense gangland wars also flair up on the lower mainland. No one knows what to do about that either. Vancouver is fast becoming infamous because of it not to mention its "Lower East Side" one of the worst in North America for crime, drugs and prostitution...but its got a great view facing North Vancouver!

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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by LadySaturn » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:14 pm

Sicily is pretty nice, Bagsy. I would recommend Israel to because of it's beauty and the people. But I don't think you'd care too much for the daily bombing from enemies or terrorist attacks.

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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by Eternum 1 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:28 am

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I wouldn't mind retiring to BC. I was considering Ireland for awhile. Something on the west coast. Now,...after the wall street ship sunk in 2009,...I'm looking for something closer to home. I hate Florida,...which seems to be the winter destination for alot of NY retirees. Austin was nice until it became a desert this past summer. How hard is it for an expatriot American to gain citizenship in Canada? Like Mike said in an earlier post somewhere,....back in the 50's and 60's you could walk across the bridge both ways from Buffalo to CA. I think Canada has alot going for it in the 21st century. Civility, being one. Just seems to me
that the past 30 years or so,...haven't been good to the American psyche. We're cruder, dumber, fatter, and less courteous, as a society altogether. Canadians? Not so much. :thumbsup:
Check out Vancouver Island as a possible location. I rented a house on Qualicum bay for several weeks this past summer and loved kayaking with otters and the occasional whale. I have also spent quality time in Sooke and have a relative who manages a lodge in Tofino (a lot of rain here). If you want to live close to Vancouver, I'd reccomend White Rock or maybe Squamish/Whistler area.

I've lived in Kelowna for 3 years (on the lake) and Penticton for 5 years and currently have a place in Christina Lake, both are nice in their own ways. I've never been concerned about criminal elements despite having lived in urban areas like Vancouver (high school and college years). If you don't watch or brood on the news you tend to be more positive and less paranoid.

If you think New York is an expensiveplace to buy property then you'll find Vancouver's most desirable areas even more so. So check out the surrounding areas or the southern interior for some nice vacation/retirement properties.
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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

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:cheers:
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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by MJPease » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:51 am

For some reason I always stick with "The grass is always greener" when thinking about relocation. Even with the fact that here in WNY we are considered to pay some of the highest property taxes in the country and the reputation for snow (Buffalo). These are the things that are suppose to turn older northeners into snowbirds that head for Florida (south) etc. In fact if I went any where it would be further north. I have no desire to relocate, I must be a minority. Take Care
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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by gordy » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:36 am

Bruno wrote:BC has many incredible beautiful places to retire in but the Lower mainland is definitely NOT one of them. Not long ago I called it a lunatic asylum and that defintion remains as accurate as ever imo. You would know why if you lived here even though you may not go quite that far. Suffice it to say it used to be far more pleasant on many different levels. Many of the smaller towns are an entirely different story - as they usually are - but not all of them are coequal either. People only see how "picturesque" it seems but that's only half of it and not even that. Things have changed mightily up here as much as everywhere else...not for the better!

As for an ex-patriot seeking citizenship in Canada you may have a longer wait with more "conditions" as a "retiree" since you would be considered no longer productive and possibly sponge off our over burdened health care system which now ranks 30th within a sampling of 30 countries. It's a common joke but if you require "priority" medical service you either have to be a hockey player or a citizen in Clinksville if you don't want to die waiting. But if you have the money you can have a good life anywhere you want.

As for Civility or being a good Samaritan that too can be deadly as a young fellow was stabbed and died from his wounds around a week ago practicing these virtues. Sometimes intense gangland wars also flair up on the lower mainland. No one knows what to do about that either. Vancouver is fast becoming infamous because of it not to mention its "Lower East Side" one of the worst in North America for crime, drugs and prostitution...but its got a great view facing North Vancouver!

Wherever one chooses to live, it's now more important than ever to be careful for what was once IS NO LONGER!

you are badmouthing the healthcare system everyone says is sooooooo much better than the u.s. system? how can this be! :thumbsup:
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Re: What we can expect from the jobs bill

Post by MJPease » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:19 am

Hello Gordy, Long time no touch keys my friend. As far as health care Social or otherwise I think Bruno hit the nail on the head in a vague kind of way. I think Bruno was refering to a hockey Player as Wealthy and Clinksville as a ward of the system as in prison where care is readily available. Forgive me if I misunderstood. Now to compare our open private insured pay for service system subsidized by medicare (retired/disabled) and medicaid (financially disadvantaged) or the VA medical system. There is not much of a difference in the picture Bruno has painted of the Canadian system as compared to ours.
I'm on Medicare and receive the majority of my healthcare through the VA. At the risk of sounding ungreatful which I will say first off I'm very greatful for the care I have received over the years. For the last ten years I have been nothing more than a pin cushion for the medical students at the University of Buffalo Medical school. There has been zero continuity in my very complicated last ten years of medical history. I had it, and finally decided to go outside of the VA for my last two abdominal surgeries, depending on my medicare coverage. The last one 12/10 was an emergency surgery which resulted in a 96,000.00 hospital bill. Medicare kicked it back saying that it should be relative to a work related injury from 1995 fun Wow.
I guess I release this very personal information due to the frustration of listening to the bullshit conversations of who has the best healthcare and how much our great system would be hurt if socialized medicine took the front seat in the USA. What it comes down to if you have to depend on Medicare or the VA You are dealing with a substandard of care from the get go. I can tell you first hand that there is no doubt in mind about that. I have undergone 13 major surgeries since 2001. My first two surgeries were Open Heart and Spine both done by excellent surgeons with great private medical insurance. The rest were performed by Residents overseen by Professers. Complications and countless days spent in icu for some of them. Even the last two where I thought I'd go outside the VA and get an actual surgeon who had been around the block a few times. A Resident performed surgery as he watched in 12/09 I coded needed 13 units of blood and spent a week in ICU. 12/10 A Resident performed surgery with same surgeon I did much better but again ended up in ICU and a 6 month recovery. The entire healthcare debate doesn't really touch home until you get cronically ill.
A lot of Vets will say that the VA meets their healthcare needs perfectly and once I have a conversation with them I have to agree. They are usually the ones that are still relatively healthy and only need preventive care. Once you become complicated more than three or four chronic health problems for get it. As far as Medicare most Americans believe that we are on a free ride. Even if Medicare picked up that 96 k I'd still be left with 1100 copay. I've already paid out around 500.00 or so in copays tests, x-rays, drs, labs.
So! When it comes to Medicine. Socialized or Otherwise For the Best in Healthcare "Money Talks Bull Shit Walks" "Cash Is King"
Take me back, so far back, adjust this fate. Afeared lately of pen, in abscence of light. The fear I might stumble upon a plagiarized soul. Wipe this dark slate clean, regain my thought. Add the words that rekindle my depth of soul.

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